., the parent of our network, along with directv and time warner which owns cnn so we're being fair and balanced. how did you know? >> what you got in both of these companies and for different reasons was responsible capital allocation. for time warner, first thing jeff did when we came in was make a bad acquisition, 750 million dollars, almost instantaneously down the drain. since then no bad acquisitions. a lot of share repurchases. big help from technology and things like hbo go. and the combination slow and steady cash flow growth, tremendous free cash flow generation, purchasing the stock, raising the dividend, just a wonderful recipe if you're the owner of the business. liz: now here's a call you're making. you believe, everybody listening, apple, all you apple lovers and faithful, that the stock price has the potential to double. in what time frame and what would get it there >> well i think what gets it there is really easy and the time frame is harder because you don't know when it is going to come. but it is basically responsible capital allocation. there's 137 billion by now